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Stonehenge
07-14-2003, 07:17 PM
Not this guy.

Under the tutelage of the mason now working for me, I've completed about 2/3 of this very small retaining wall project in my front yard.

The black box in the wall is a low voltage light. There will be 3 of those along the wall.

The masonry work is not as mysterious as I thought it'd be. 3 hours with the mason and I had enough working knowledge to build this.

PSUscaper
07-14-2003, 08:35 PM
Looks good............too good in fact....

showing work off like that is going to kick you out of the dry laid business and into the wet world.

Its funny how you look at a dry laid wall and say 'that's beutiful', then see a wet one and say 'that's even more beutiful!'

Stonehenge
07-14-2003, 09:00 PM
Thanks for the compliment. :blush:

I do have to admit that I've been like Narcissus - every time I walk by I have to stop and look at the wall. I'm happy how it's turning out. I made a few mistakes, but I guess that's part of the learning process. I just won't photograph those. ;)

I'll be adding one more course over the tallest one you see, to cover the top of the light housing. I'll cut those stones to have tighter gaps along the tops.

We'll likely be tackling a project for a builder that will be approx. 270 sq face feet, built this same way. We'll do more for drainage for that one. This one we'll run some 3" perf pipe at the base of the wall and fill partway with clear, daylight the pipe somewhere inconspicuously in the landscape.

PSUscaper
07-14-2003, 09:14 PM
Is that a light colored mortar mix in the wall???

Just wondering. For the few jobs I do, I always like to die my mortar a little bit. I find the black die is nice as you can dilute it a little bit and get a light gray color, or just go with it and go straight black.

It always bothered me to see a nice stone wall and then see 'bright white' concrete staring out at me.....I like to hide it if possible.

steve

Stonehenge
07-14-2003, 10:10 PM
Just straight mortar. No dye. It's funny you mention that...As I was building this I was thinking 'I wonder how this would look with black mortar joints?'

jwholden
07-14-2003, 11:22 PM
Hmm...

I've always wanted to try a belgian block apron somewhere. Would you like one for the materials cost Stonehenge?

Seriously, I always find that once you get down to it nothing is as bad as it seems (given some time to think without a couple guys looking over my shoulder).

The wall looks great and they will continue getting better!:thumbup:

jwholden
07-14-2003, 11:26 PM
Could we see some more of that patio? :D

agla
07-15-2003, 06:02 AM
Are you using a concrete footing or a gravel base? It looks like gravel in the picture. I wonder how well this will hold up after a few years of freeze thaw if that is the case.

We are in a much milder climate than Wisconsin, but do our stone on a 6" steel reinforced concrete footing. Not everyone does here, but those that don't run into problems down the road ... after the check has cleared.

Let us know how it holds up.

BJR
07-15-2003, 06:16 AM
Nice stone. What is it? It looks very dense.

It looks like our sandstone, which is very popous, which means it gets dirty quickly.

BLACK JOINTS:cry:

DON'T DO IT:yucky:

Black joints were in fashion about 30 years ago here, and there are still remants of it around today. Most unnatural.

Keep them light or we use an ochre coloured sand with off white cement to get an ochre joint. Mainly used with more yellow stone than youre using.

You get enormous satisification doing something like stonework for the first, and thousandth time.

That's what I love about landscaping.:insane:

Stonehenge
07-15-2003, 07:25 AM
Here's the footing.

It was hand-mixed, 14 - 80# bags of concrete. All mixed by me :insane:

The footing is only 3" deep, reinforced with 3/8" rebar. Not ideal (my mason recommended 4", but it was my own yard, where I tend to be a bit more lazy).

Yeah, there is quite a bit of satisfaction from this. More than any pencil pushing I ever did. :D

Stonehenge
08-07-2003, 10:30 PM
Ok, here's the finished product, lights and all:

Stonehenge
08-07-2003, 10:34 PM
Here's another pic

scl
08-07-2003, 11:57 PM
Dang, I'm impressed. Nice finish Jeff!

agla
08-08-2003, 05:37 AM
Nice work and really nice work on getting night photos to come out nice. Any special photo technique? Most night lighting shots look like crap, those are nice.

Stonehenge
08-08-2003, 07:06 AM
:blush: Thanks!

The photography is all in the camera. I've got a digital camera that really can work wonders.

But with it I had a tripod, and a corded shutter release so the camera would be perfectly still for the 3-4 seconds the shutter was open.

Nebraska
08-08-2003, 06:24 PM
Is that the house your selling?

Stonehenge
08-08-2003, 07:42 PM
Yup. :cry:

BJR
08-11-2003, 03:22 AM
Very nice.

What is the edging you have used against the pavers?

Stonehenge
11-04-2003, 07:06 PM
BJR, I just noticed your question here. The edging is made by Curv-Rite. It's aluminum, but shaped like many other paver edgins, with an 'L'.

Will Pacala
11-04-2003, 07:19 PM
Great work on both the wall and camera work. Keep it up.

AZTLANLC
11-05-2003, 03:53 PM
How many man hours did you spend on that project?

Stonehenge
11-05-2003, 06:05 PM
I don't really know - I worked on it whenever I had a couple free hours. Probably 30 man hours.

BJR
11-05-2003, 08:41 PM
Jeff

I have never seen manufactured edging in Aus.

We still edge with concrete. Either as a haunch, or set the edge paver into the wet concrete.

how does the edging go on drives.

Stonehenge
11-05-2003, 10:32 PM
Same as anything else, but we use spikes more frequently for driveways. If you can give them a try, you really ought to. It is an amazing time saver, compared to troweling a bead of concrete.

Here's a link to the site of the product we use: http://www.curv-rite.com/prod02.htm